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[bryant]

Warped setting idea for Sorcerer: high school cliques. Remember, in Sorcerer the demons don’t have to be demons per se. So in this setting, the demons are the clique leaders — the cheerleaders, the quarterbacks, the people who control the lunch tables. The sorcerers are the new kids in school. They have a choice: they can suck up to the cool kids (Binding, Containing, and so on) or they can maintain their Humanity (the amount of time they spend with actually interesting people).

Disclaimer: this concept might make Ron Edwards turn green, I dunno. It is not intended to accurately model high school. Plenty of popular kids in high school were also interesting. Etc.

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Dude!

[bluegargantua]

That totally rocks the house. Yeah, it stretches the conventions a little bit, but it's not like Mr. Edwards can naysay non-comformity. Sounds to me like there's a nifty mini-supplement in there.

later
Tom

[jeregenest.livejournal.com]

I've never gotten Sorcerer. Probably reflects badly on me. The funny thing is I hear of folks games and/or ideas for using the game and I think "That sounds cool." But the written game itself has never interested me. I don't hink I even finished it. Of course that may be ebcause when I tried it was pdf only.

That being said, this sounds like a fun one-shot. probably a con game.

[robotnik.livejournal.com]

I think Sorcerer's evolved considerably since the original PDF, and even since the hardcover book came out. Not in rules so much as philosophy and "best practices," if that makes any sense. But since Ron Edwards says he's not likely to ever do a second edition, the game in its most evolved state only exists as a kind of loose cloud composed of the original book, the 2 supplements, and a pile of discussions, disputes, and clarifications at the Forge.

Jere, did you ever read the "Sorcerer's Soul" supplement? I can lend it to you. It might be the best place to see what the game is striving to accomplish. (Whether it does or not I can't say, not having played yet.)

I have an ulterior motive in proselytizing Sorcerer to you, of course, in that (as Bryant knows) I want to do a corporate Sorcerer game about cutthroat business executives and the inescapability of the market. I floated the idea in a post on the Forge here.

(That's one mention of the game, three if you count threads on the Forge. Still in compliance with the Gaming Code, for now...)

[jeregenest.livejournal.com]

I think Sorcerer's evolved considerably since the original PDF, and even since the hardcover book came out. Not in rules so much as philosophy and "best practices," if that makes any sense. But since Ron Edwards says he's not likely to ever do a second edition, the game in its most evolved state only exists as a kind of loose cloud composed of the original book, the 2 supplements, and a pile of discussions, disputes, and clarifications at the Forge.


See, thats one of my problems with the whole Forge community. Thats an esoteric, limiting way to do things which is no different than someones hedge rules. Hermetuically sealed gaming holds no interest to me.

Jere, did you ever read the "Sorcerer's Soul" supplement? I can lend it to you. It might be the best place to see what the game is striving to accomplish. (Whether it does or not I can't say, not having played yet.)

I'm always willing to give things another shot.

Jere

[bryant]

I like Sorcerer, but I think it's a lot like jazz right before Miles Davis said "screw these rules, those wacky rock musicians are doing kind of interesting stuff." Ron Edwards is a brilliant guy, but he's also a stone cold purist in a lot of ways. At times I find his ideas about what Sorcerer "is" to be as constricting as the gamist assumptions he so ably undermines.

I like his jazz a lot, but sometimes I like fusion, too, and I strongly suspect that some of my gaming fun comes in ways that are not considered optimal in his philosophy.

Or, if you'd like another analogy:

Ron Edwards is to gaming as Glorantha is to RPG settings.

Thank you, thank you, I'll be here all night.

[robotnik.livejournal.com]

Obviously the only way to settle all this is for one of us to just run a damn game of Sorcerer.(*) Then we'll know what all the fuss is about.

(*) Or Trollbabe.

[jeregenest.livejournal.com]

You volunteering? I'm free Saturday.

[robotnik.livejournal.com]

Call my bluff, will you? :)

Well, I'm afraid I'm not free Saturday, but I really would run a Sorcerer Inc. game sometime with a small group of players. Reading Exit Strategy and Pattern Recognition one after the other has got me firmly in the grip of the idea.

[bryant]

I'd be into playing Sorcerer Inc.; I'd also be happy to run my post-demonic New York setting with up to three players anytime we can get the group together. You two and another interested party, yeah?

btw, Rob, I owe you one for reasons I am about to email you about. /Boo/yah.