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[bryant]

I am firmly dedicated to seeing as many 2004 movies as possible before I crank out a best of list, which means that I won't be doing mine until mid-January. Maybe late January, since the Brattle has that Zhang Ziyi flick I wanna see. However: Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow, Closer, Life Aquatic, Kinsey, The Incredibles, Gozu, Last Life in the Universe, Zatoichi, Eternal Sunshine, Spider-Man 2, aw crap that's ten already? This is gonna be tough.

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A couple more points, then I'll drop this. If someone were to object to my putting The Incredibles on a "Best of" list, I'd listen politely, but not change my mind, and there'd be no point in having too long a discussion on it. Similarly, there's no way I'm changing your mind on this.

Sorry, but I'm sticking with my comment about people being happier if Polly had been meek and mild as long as people keep assuming that she was in the wrong in Shanghai based on Joe's accusations

What do we know about Shanghai?
1. Polly was suspicious, but had no proof.
2. Polly sabotaged Joe's plane.

Now, considering Joe's overall cluelessness, I consider Polly sabotaging his plane to be attempted murder. (It should be noted at this time that I think airplanes are dangerous, tricky machines. Someone with more faith in either technology or Joe's ability to handle a plane-related emergency might see Polly's actions as less drastic.)

So, to me, Polly tried to kill Joe because she suspected he was violating her trust. This seems like a morally questionable decision to me, especially when she later goes on to violate his trust.

On "people" (not me) wanting Polly to be meek and mild: Isn't that what she does? At the start of the film, she acts strongly, independently. Then Joe shows up and all she does for most of the rest of the film is follow him around. Ick. Compare this to Frankie, who doesn't follow Joe around, who isn't meek or mild -- and who people cheered (at least in the theatre in which I saw the film). I want Polly to be stronger, more independent. I wanted her to lead, not follow. Especially not follow Joe. (Polly might have her faults, but Joe was the big disappointment to me.)

[bryant]

I consider Polly sabotaging his plane to be attempted murder.

Which contains the implicit assumption that she sabotaged it in a way which would only take affect in the air. For your statement to be accurate, she can't have, say... pulled out the distributor cap or equivalent.

Again: it baffles me, because I see almost everyone I know making those kinds of assumptions. Whenever someone has to guess at the circumstances, the guess always winds up being whatever puts Polly in the worst light. Very perplexing.

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Whenever someone has to guess at the circumstances, the guess always winds up being whatever puts Polly in the worst light. Very perplexing.

Perplexing, indeed.

Despite my belief that I am (relatively) unbiased towards or against Polly, I definitely have the idea in my head that she didn't just disable the plane, that she deliberately and knowingly put Joe's life at risk. Where this idea came from, I do not know.

In light of this, I think I'll start actively suporting Polly.

Give Polly a Break! Give Polly a Break!