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Nov. 3rd, 2004 02:14 pm
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Regarding new directions, I recommend to you David Neiwert, who remembers that the American progressive movement started both inside and outside the cities.

But we have terminology issues here. At present, progressive is used as a substitute for liberal. I'm not entirely sure that's accurate, considering that Teddy Roosevelt wound up a progressive in the end. My personal current bet is that within ten years we'll have a moderate party and a conservative party. I hedge this by saying that I don't think civil liberties are a liberal or a conservative issue -- see also William Weld and (odd fellow traveller, here) Bob Barr. I think there's a small chance that neither of these parties will be the Democratic Party. It's possible that one of them will be progressive.

Mostly, though, I'm recommending David's post because it's nice to have a sense of history.

Date: 2004-11-03 08:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com
Yeah, 'progressive' is being used more as a euphemism for 'liberal', because 'liberal' has become a Bad Word. But what exactly is the difference, then?

Date: 2004-11-04 03:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sebastian-tombs.livejournal.com
My personal current bet is that within ten years we'll have a moderate party and a conservative party

I don't think we've had a liberal party since the Contract on for America. Once Clinton had to deal with a Republican Congress, all things liberal were off the table, and the best case scenario was a moderation of the foaming-at-the-most ultra conservatives taking over the country, and it has only gotten worse without even the moderating influence of a democrat president.

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