Speaking as an old Reds fan, and a native of the Cincinnati area, most of us round these parts are as torn as the rest of the place. Most thing they should bring him back into baseball, but ban him from the HOF. But you set a dangerous precedent both ways. Gambling in my opinion is piffle compared to things like drug use, so if you ban Pete for gambling, then take every other player that has had an arrest and ban them too, yank the ones out already in the Hall if they have a past trangression. Lets just sanatize the whole place. My two cents.
Most thing they should bring him back into baseball, but ban him from the HOF.
Uhh, that should be the other way around, yes? The HoF is just a club for the big boys, and Rose is definitely a big boy in that sense. But he is not trustworthy and bringing him back to baseball is not fair to the team he's working for, and as a manager, well, that's awful for the players.
Gambling in my opinion is piffle compared to things like drug use
Gambling is no big deal. Gambling on baseball while actively participating in it is a very big deal, because it makes your motivations suspect — are you trying to win a game just like any other day, or is there an extra incentive for you to win so you recklessly throw your best pitcher out there even though he could use the rest?
Really, your last arguement depends on how much you care about professional sports. I have watched, over the past decade, my city spend in inordinate amount of time and money, energies that could have really improved my community on two sports complexes. That the teams, the Reds, and the Bengals, are less than average teams is a trivial debate to me. It's all trivial to me really. And quite absurd that people that play leisurly games make more money than a teacher. So with that in mind, I don't really care anymore. They can shoot each other in the head with loaded rifles to win a game ;-) We got big buisness pushing people out of thier homes in my city. Pete Rose and gambling. It just doesn't compare.
It's not any more absurd that people get paid millions for a leisurely game than it is for people to get paid millions for performing a play. When you do something well enough to be entertainment for millions of people, the money doesn't seem so absurd anymore.
It might seem trivial, but it can be a worthwhile investment for the city to promote sports because it brings in more revenue (i'd lean towards it not being so, but the potential is there). But i agree that sports should be low on the city's priority list (bread and circuses, anyone?).
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Date: 2004-01-10 08:54 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-01-11 09:47 am (UTC)Uhh, that should be the other way around, yes? The HoF is just a club for the big boys, and Rose is definitely a big boy in that sense. But he is not trustworthy and bringing him back to baseball is not fair to the team he's working for, and as a manager, well, that's awful for the players.
Gambling in my opinion is piffle compared to things like drug use
Gambling is no big deal. Gambling on baseball while actively participating in it is a very big deal, because it makes your motivations suspect — are you trying to win a game just like any other day, or is there an extra incentive for you to win so you recklessly throw your best pitcher out there even though he could use the rest?
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Date: 2004-01-11 09:53 am (UTC)It's all trivial to me really. And quite absurd that people that play leisurly games make more money than a teacher. So with that in mind, I don't really care anymore. They can shoot each other in the head with loaded rifles to win a game ;-) We got big buisness pushing people out of thier homes in my city. Pete Rose and gambling. It just doesn't compare.
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Date: 2004-01-11 12:06 pm (UTC)It might seem trivial, but it can be a worthwhile investment for the city to promote sports because it brings in more revenue (i'd lean towards it not being so, but the potential is there). But i agree that sports should be low on the city's priority list (bread and circuses, anyone?).